Friday, September 25, 2015

An Experienced User's Notes on ACDSee Ultimate 9

Well ACDSee, the company released ACDSee Ultimate 9 yesterday.  It is, in my opinion, a major upgrade to an already mature and well seasoned product line.  This won't be a review, as such, so much as a comment on the overall effectiveness of ACDSee Ultimate 9 and some comments on specific new features. 

No product is 100% perfect, and neither is any product in the ACDSee line.    But Ultimate 9 seems to me to be a welcome upgrade in my eyes.

Some background on the three major products in the ACDSee line of software that sprung from the original ACDSee viewer Browser that originated in the 1990s.  Note that ACDSee sells other products as well.  These are not the only products ACDSee offers, however these are the products I most care about.

There are three products in this line, the current versions are:

  1. ACDSee 19 - This is no longer the basic photo viewer/browser of the early years.  It is a full featured media manager and media database application.  It not only allows for some pretty sophisticated management of your photos, it also allows for the simple 'touch-up edits people have come to expect with this sort of product.  Actually, when I downloaded this product, I was surprised at how sophisticated the 'Edit' tab controls were. For instance, I could even blend the unedited exposure version of a photo with the edited exposure version!  I would say, for the jpg shooter who is more of a shoot and post on social media person, but who wants to be able to touch up and crop  photos, and then track how they get used, this may be all they need.
  2. ACDSee Pro 9 - This adds Raw development and a slightly more sophisticated bit mapped editing capability to the manage functions of ACDSee 19.  In fact it looks like ACDSee 19 is lifted whole cloth and inserted into Pro 9 I don't see any significant difference between the Manage tab of ACDSee Pro 9 and the Manage tab of ACDSee 19.  I won't go into detail on the differences between the two products, ACDSee has a web page that explains the differences. This first part of the article is a summary, but there is FINALLY,  X-TRANS support!  Finally!  The Edit tab has some additional enhancements that most people will want as well.  This includes Pixel targeting, trust me you want Pixel Targeting!
  3. ACDSee Ultimate 9 - Essentially this is ACDSee Pro 9 with the addition of an enhanced Bit mapped editor with layers.
If you see a pattern where each level of software builds on the features of the one that comes before it and then adds features, you would be correct.  They all use the same database and the same user interface.  Learning one product gives you most of the skills you need to successfully use a different product.  You most definitely do NOT have to forget something to upgrade to a different and more sophisticated product.

But let's review ACDSee Ultimate 9. This is the top of the line in this series of software.  It costs the most, but it does the most.  I have listed below what I consider the major enhancements.  some of them are in U9 only, while others are also in ACDSee 19 and ACDSee Pro 9.  I won't attempt to tell you which functions are in which product.  ACDSee has a web page that does that quite well.  

My goal in this article is to give you MY impression of the new features of Ultimate 9.  Please do not consider this a formal review, mainly because I haven't spent enough time with the product to render a final judgement (AS I write this, the software was released the day before), and also I don't like final judgements on software since the review is of.a product at a particular point in time.  

The reviews rarely change or get updated, but with software upgrades, the software does, often rendering, the review less accurate than at the time of publication, but the reader has no way of knowing how accurate that review remains.  I want to avoid that problem as much as possible, so I consider these an independent, third party, set of release notes for the initial release of ACDSee Ultimate 9. If you MUST think of this as a review, think of it as a brief review of functionality.

Below are the major new features that I think most people will be interested in.  I will discuss them individually.

X-Trans Support

Well, it's about time!  Most current X-Trans users have already selected their raw development software by now.  So if ACDSee wants them to consider switching, the quality of the X-Trans conversion must be at least as good as they currently are getting.  I can't comment on the quality of the conversion itself, since I shoot m43s.  If any X-Trans users want to download a trial version, and let me know their opinions, I would be happy to publish their comments.

Adjustment Layers

This is a major feature upgrade for Ultimate 9.  The ability to mask and apply adjustments to layers in Ultimate 9 takes the layering function of Ultimate 8 from a handy convenience feature to a significant workflow tool.

Automated lens corrections (Geometric and CA)

Again, this is really important.  It was frustrating to know that my m43s system embedded distortion data into the image but that ACDSee couldn't access that information.  And manual correction was fine for gross obvious distortion, but pretty useless for more subtle correction.

It appears that ACDSee is using the Lensfun correction database, so if a particular lens profile offers CA data, then ACDSee will offer CA correction as well.  If they are using LensFun, then a simple internet search will yield all sorts of ways to create Lensfun profiles for lenses using tools many people now have.  I even found one that uses the open source stitching tool Hugin.  

However, what we need from ACDSee is clarification of, will they use a different, more proprietary, process to create new lens profiles and insert them into ACDSee; or will there be a more generic, process created?  I'm sure this announcement will come in time, the new release has only been out one day at this point.  I suspect they are now waiting for any errors and omissions to pop up so they can fix them ASAP.

Snapshots (Virtual copies)

This does not appear to be an exact one for one replication of Lightroom's Virtual copies where the database stores and displays a thumbnail of the revised image and search and select the Virtual copy as if it were an independant photo.  Instead it allows the user to save the Develop tab's, development setting and give it a name without creating a new thumbnail for that setting.  The Snapshot defaults to a datetime stamp as a default name, but clearly, more meaningful Snapshot names would be useful to most people.  Changing the default name is easy enough, so I urge users to do so.

Is this as useful, overall, as Lightroom Virtual copies?  No, it is not, though it is still VERY useful.  However I would remind you that ACDSee uses what appears to be a hierarchical database as opposed to Lightroom's Relational database.  Hierarchical databases require a different record access methodology than Relational. This alters significantly how the programmers must code their program.  Relational databases get their powerful flexibility at a price of speed though.  For those who don't like Lr's speed and response time, this may prove a most satisfactory alternative.

Action Recording and Playback

This works only in record mode in the 'Edit' Tab; and in playback mode, in the Manage and Edit tabs.  It does not work in the Develop tab at all, though I can see some valid uses for it in the Develop tab, maybe Version 10 or 11 will offer this feature.

Overall it works pretty well, you select 'record', perform an action or a series of actions in the Edit Tab, then you hit "save", give the recorded action a name.  After that, you can bring up any photo, or a Batch of photos, in either the "Manage" tab or the "Edit" tab and apply the same actions to all those photos in the order recorded.

Presently, there is no way to edit a recorded action.  If you spot an error in the recorded action file, you will need to delete that action file and create an entirely new one.  Again, a nice addition for subsequent versions, I guess.

PS Plugin Support 

I find this VERY useful, I no longer have to treat Plug-ins as standalone editors or avoid using those plug-ins that can't function as a stand alone editor.  So far, I can only confirm that it works with 64 bit plug-ins, so favorite 32 bit Plug-ins might not work.

EDIT 9/30/2015:
In a private conversation with another ACDSee user, he reports that he has successfully run Polaroid Dust and Scratch remover and Kodak ROC inside of ACDSee Ultimate 9. I want to make sure I correct any misconceptions I may have left.

Collections/Smart Collections 

I haven't played with this function much, but my feeling, so far, is that it will be quite useful. While the user interface differs pretty much from Lightroom's version, the actual concept and process pretty much works the same way.  Basically you create and name a collection and then select a group of photos right click on them and add them to the desired collection.
Smart collections seem to have a search function added to them.  At this point I haven't really used the Smart Collection feature.  If I find it particularly useful or poetentially useful I may write an article specifically on this topic.

Photos Mode

Allows you to view entire photo database regardless of location on the hard drive or in other logical ACDSee constructs.  On the Left of the screen is a narrow window of dates on which photos were taken,  And on the right, a much larger window that displays all the photos taken on, or after, that date. So, in effect, you can see your entire collection of managed photos, or a subset of photos that were taken AFTER a specific date.

I'm not sure I will use this much, but I suspect people involved in commercial photo management will find it useful.


Is this a fad for the software publishers or what? It seems every publisher is adding a dehaze slider.  What does this do that can't be done with other tools?  Well I tested it out, and when compared to other techniques,where no other conditions needed to be met, it is a tiny bit better than I could do on my own.

Skin Tune

I would point you to my comments on Dehaze.  Though as a landscape and nature photographer,  I don't really use this sort of 'glamour' effect all that often, I have tried it out and I find it acceptable for my limited needs, and I suspect most other people will find it useful as well.

4K support

It's there if you need it.  I have no way to test it out.

Lightroom Database conversion 

I haven't tested, I got rid of my Lr database some time ago. But I suspect it does NOT Convert your Lr edits, but is more about metadata conversion issues.  That in itself, is not small potatoes, and may make it easier for Lightroom users to switch to ACDSee from Lr.  I wish I had it 3-4 years ago when I switched from Lr.


All in all, I would say this Windows only application has had a serious upgrade in functionality.  ACDSee Ultimate 9, still has some obvious gaps in what I think I need in an ideal photo tool, but on the whole, I like it very much.  I like it better than Lightroom, primarily for its speed of operation, and the Light equalizer (see my previous article here).  However, these, functionality enhancements really seal the deal, in my mind.   Of the new functions, I think I will use the adjustment layers, the Snapshot functions, and the Photoshop Plug-ins feature the most.  But the exciting thing is, I don't know with absolute certainty!  One of the other new tools might surprise me.


  1. Thanks for the great review! I plan to upgrade shortly.

  2. The responsiveness and usability of ACDSee Ultimate 9 is very good. I very much like the concept and the final results.
    However, the noise reduction is below standard in my opinion.
    Did you guys also find the layer edit mode also quite slow?

    1. Yes I've not liked the NR in ACDSee for quite some time. I personally use Topaz Denoise for problem photos.

      I suspect that with the layers mode speed, the problem lies in your display card. This new version really taxes the display card resources when using layers. You might want to go into the Options menu and look at the display card setting to see if the display card parm that ACDSee is using seems appropriate. If that can't relieve the issue, then you will need to talk to ACDSee tech support.

    2. Thanks your tip, I will look into it tonight!
      I have an AMD FX6300 chip together with a Radeon R9 270x. I thought this should be sufficient, but maybe I still can tune it a little.

      I just stumbled upon your denoise comparison between Topaz and ACDSee. Nice one!

    3. All, it seems ACDSee has tweaked Ultimate 9 to improve the layers speed and responsiveness. I suspect few people will have issues with that now.

  3. Thanks for the great review...i dont like i may give ACDSee a try....does anyone know of a good workflow tutorial...even if its for version 8....i know that version 9 just came out the end of sept. (2015)....thanks in advance. Andrew

    1. Andrew, one of the problems with anything not produced by Adobe is that there are few, if any online resources for information on those programs. That is one of the reasons why I started this blog, to sort of act as a clearing house for ACDSee related information. however ACDSee has really gotten interested in providing useful user information in the last year or so.

      The quick start guide in the help menu of ACCDSee Pro or Ultimate 9 is fairly decent and should get you started at least with the basics.

      The ACDSee Tutorials found at: are also pretty good. Some are basic, while a few are more advanced.

    2. One last thing, The User's Forum on the ACDSee site is very useful for getting information on specific problems. It is a user to user forum, that is lightly moderated. Users are free to pretty much say what they want. But even so, everyone there is pretty friendly and willing to help new users. I go there when I have specific problems.

  4. Thanks so much glen for your responses. Greatly appreciate it. Will check out the links u have provided for the tutorials and the forum . (I'm thinking abt getting the ultimate version. :)

  5. Well done Glen,very informative ,now upgraded to Ultimate 9,its a shame that this software does not get more exposure,I ditched Lightroom for ACDsee many years ago.

  6. Great article, i've just been trying out the x-trans support, and was pleasantly surprised. It's a lot better than what adobe has been pushing. (I have a cc subscription) Most of the time I'm using Photo Ninja as raw convertor, what delivers better conversion than acdsee, but having been playing around with adcsee for only two days isn't a fair comparison.
    For the rest, this might well be the replacement for cc I've been searching for.

  7. Thanks for sharing your experience!

  8. Glen, let me add my thanks for your continuing articles on ACDSee Pro and Ultimate. I am using Ultimate 8 and just waiting for ACDsee's best upgrade offer :)

  9. I have been using ACDS on and off for several years but always went back to LR. I'm now trying ACDS again as Pro 9 supports Fuji. I always shoot raw and find that the ACDS images with no editing look flat compared to LR with no editing. Of course after editing I get pretty close to what I want with both programmes. The big deal for me is that with ACDS I don't have to go through that LR import nonsense. ACDS I find much easier to use so I will probably keep it.

    1. Yes, I left Lightroom about 3 years ago. I too, found it odd that Lightroom makes unedited photos seem "punchier" than ACDSee. However, after a while, I came to realize that Lightroom does more involuntary post processing than ACDSee. ACDSee seems to be operating on the theory that the users are smart enough to add contrast and sharpening if they want it!

      I would point you to my article where I compare ACDSee to the Olympus Viewer 3. The differences in how various software treats unedited photos really stands out in that comparison.

  10. Thanks Glen. I have just upgraded. Collin

  11. Thanks for the review. I have just up graded . I hope my plugins work as now I will not have to switch between ACDsee and PSP X7


  12. Would you advice using a mouse or a graphic tablet as an input device?

    1. I personally don't use a tablet and have always used a mouse with ACDSee. I don't see any overt impediment to tablet use, though I admit I would not be the person to ask on this issue, I think.

  13. I've been using ACD Ultimate 9 for several months and I like it better than Photoshop and Paintshop Pro 7. ACD Ultimate 9 is fast and the Light EQ is one of the best editing tools I've used. The ability to use a brush to edit only specific parts of an image (rather than the select tool) is really great. Here's my gallery, top 20 images or so all edited in ACD Ultimate 9: